Jerry
First Hits
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Post by Jerry on Mar 1, 2005 19:15:20 GMT
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njm
You Drink a Lot of Coffee For a Teenager
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Post by njm on Mar 1, 2005 20:16:45 GMT
Cool, thanks for the links Jerry. I remember reading about this film a few weeks ago, so I'm glad to see that the DVD is available to purchase/rent.
Has anyone seen it yet? Is there a full list of the participants listed anywhere?
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Post by xtrizeme on Jun 22, 2005 7:44:11 GMT
This DVD is definitely worth getting as it allows an oppurtunity to get into some heads that generally perpetuate the "I'm too cool for you to get into my head", ethos. Everyone isn't great. All of the guys from Trans Am are fairly retarded, John McEntire is pretentious beyond pretentious, and a lot of the folks that actually open up(which is kind of the point of the DVD) are a little obscure. As far as this site is concerned, Ian Williams is the editor of this DVD and if you can watch this DVD, meet Ian Williams in person, and view Ian's piece on himself contained on this DVD without hating him, you are Jesus Fucking H Christ. Seriously. Some of the highlights are Steve Albini, Dan Peters, Casey Rice... and Thurston Moore's bit is reason alone to buy this. Uneven but definitely worth owning. Kill Indie Ian, if for no other reason than his involvement ruining Damon's participation in this DVD; as I think watching Damon's take on the theme of this thing would have been pretty great. But there are many other reasons(to hate Ian Williams). It's a fact!
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Tetragrammatn
You Drink a Lot of Coffee For a Teenager
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Post by Tetragrammatn on Jun 23, 2005 4:55:41 GMT
The DVD is apparently on Netflix if you're signed up to that service, but the reviews say that the DVD is five hours long! Not sure if I'm going to get this one...
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Post by xtrizeme on Jun 23, 2005 6:01:31 GMT
Yeah it's 5 hours long(if not longer) but it's very easy to set up and watch. You can search alphabetically and by instrument, so watching it is less like popping in a 5 plus hour film, and more like web-surfing. I have my aforementioned beefs with it, but it really is a pretty phenomenal idea that is pretty well executed. The failures beyond Indie Ian's pretentious editing are pretty much individual failures. Like a few of the guys are just too cool for school, but most of the guys are great, and earnestly recount moments in music that changed their lives. It's really pretty neat and it runs the gamut of Indie-rock personality: e.g., Mike Watt's a little overly sincere, Jon Spencer's a little full of himself, David Yow seems drunk, Chris Brokaw's humbly thankful, Dan Peters is drunk and hilarious, Sebastian Thomson is obvious, JOhn McEntire is unfunnily pretentious, Indie Ian is unintentionally/pretentiously hilarious, Steve Albini is concise, engaging, and still funny, Casey Rice is angstful, Georgia Hubley is sweet in that stoned "art is really awesome" way, and Thurston Moore is just phenomenal. It's worth buying this thing alone to hear Thurston's little story of his first experience with music changing his life. At its best it's a very inspiredly intimate look at what makes us all get into this weird world of strange music, and at its worst it just has people who don't want to show their hand, as it were. You'll love the amount of content the DVD has, if anything you'll want more. If I might be a little gay(which I'd be more than happy to be) I'd kind of like to start a little thread on this site of moments that changed our lives while experiencing music. Which is really the theme of Looking for a Thrill. Any takers?
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Post by xtrizeme on Jun 24, 2005 7:07:36 GMT
Did anyone read what I posted or am I the only faggot here? And as long as I'm commenting to myself, I love that line I have about, "It makes us all appreciate that weird world of music that we all love." It kind of sounds like the final blurb line in the selling of the "Hogan's Family" Hollywood pitch.
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Jeff
First Hits
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Post by Jeff on Jun 28, 2005 14:18:56 GMT
i read that bjork was also on the DVD. how was she?
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frozin
Faux-Ass Nonsense
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Post by frozin on Jun 30, 2005 4:09:01 GMT
moments that changed my life while experiencing music.
interesting.
my life is music, so with the other musicians here i bet we could write a few novels. get that topic going!
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Post by xtrizeme on Jun 30, 2005 6:12:41 GMT
I started getting into music in a big way when I was about 14. I lived in the suburbs, had been a huge metal fan as a grade schooler, and got out of that approximately the time Cinderella started being considered a serious force in metal. I went through an unfortunate rap phase(just trying to see what else was out there) when I decided that I loved music, not poorly artistically realized, junior-high politics. I started staying up past my bedtime and began to see bands like Swervedriver, Lush, and Ride on 120 Minutes via MTV and started buying all the heavy, ambient, guitar music I could find at the local Turtle's. So I discovered a lot of middle of the road generic, "shoe-gazing" music, and a couple of great albums(Loveless and Raise are classics). Then (while living in Seattle incidentally) some friends of mine turned me onto Nirvana, and when they became a big pop-culture thing, I started reading everything Kurt Cobain said in big publications. I was never the biggest Nirvana fan, but Kurt Cobain's humility and propensity for gushing on about bands that inspired him got me into several bands like Urge Overkill, Sebadoh, the Breeders, the MInutemen, the Jesus Lizard, Dinosaur Jr., etc(which in turn got me into bands they played with, ad infinitum). One day a friend of mine and I decided to see if a cool show might be playing in town. We had previously seen only a Ride/Pale Saints double bill, that was cool for 15 year-olds but didn't exactly change our lives. When we looked in the Atlanta alternative weekly that day we saw that the Jesus Lizard was playing with a couple of bands called Tar and Dirt. MY friend was 16, had a license and a car and we headed to downtown Atlanta to the Masquerade. It's funny because you'd think the internet would have this huge increase on the popularity of bands, but I've seen the Jesus Lizard over 10 times, and in 1992 I saw them play to their biggest audience I've ever seen them play to when underground music was REALLY underground, and besides the 100 or so wet behind the ears kids who'd been hanging on Kurt Cobain's every word to bring them the rock gospel, there were probably 1900 older fans of the 3 bands we saw that were at the show, that were obviously seasoned fans of the band. It was the strangest assortment of people I think I've ever seen. It was like every person I saw at the show was a type of person I had only imagined existing. Just these super-strange weird arty-folks that didn't tie into any association I'd ever had with music/fan sterotypes. It was really intimidating/inspiring. Dirt(which was a legendary Atlanta band featuring pre-Mount Shasta John Forbes) played first. They all seemed really filthy and played this strange, tight, but messy rock that I might later classify as punk-meets prog-meets Southern humidity, but at the time it just fucking blew my mind and freaked me out. I remember watching them play this super fucked-up music while their bassist was wearing jeans, a t-shirt, a cowboy hat, while sweating his ass off, and thinking, "wow, I've never imagined I could be so amazed at music played by a band featuring someone wearing a cowboy hat." Tar played next. As soon as I got to the show I went to the merch booth to buy a Jesus Lizard t-shirt. I was already the weirdest kid in school, and I just had to have a Jesus Lizard t-shirt(even though I'd never heard the band) to cement my status. The shirts were 12 bucks and John Mohr of Tar was running the merch booth. I had no idea who he was but I gave him a 20 for the Jesus Lizard shirt with the Mouse riding the bomb about to detonate it with an axe he was holding. AS I waited for my change he gave me this look like, "What the fuck are you waiting for you little asshole?" and I just left, never receiving my 8 dollars change. Tar took the stage and put on what was by far the best show of the night, the best show I'd ever seen, and what was one of the 10 best shows I've ever seen in my life. They were touring in support of Jackson(the best fucking Tar album ever) and absolutely stole the show and my eternal adulation with a set that was mind-bendingly powerful, precise, and minimalistic. Once again it was visually contradictory: the Tar guys all had flat top haircuts at the time, but they produced this unbelievably angular, concise, and rich music, that I'd never even imagined before. It blew about 2000 minds that night, none more than mine. The Jesus Lizard played next and it's quite possible they were showing some deference to the set Tar played that night because it was the least memorable Jesus Lizard set I ever saw, but it was still pretty great. My friend and I went home that night and struggled to put into words what we had seen. We found out where we could buy Jesus Lizard, Tar, and Dirt albums in Atlanta, and never went to Turtles again.
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Post by easy15217 on Jun 30, 2005 8:24:58 GMT
well calling ian "indie" will make him act like he must show "outtakes" from this thrill jockey home vid. david yow did not seem drunk to me... his passion about seeing led zep made me understand the cover of a zep song he did with helmet. i might be jesus harold ch.... because i thought that this vid was a chance for all of those kids to get a chance to express themselves that they have earned. being from pittsburgh i have met don cab and seen this vid. so ... "xtrizeme"... it's just a movie. thurston moore's scene was great. his intense explanation of being afraid was awesome. just remember thurston knows of ian's talent and really like it. and as for damon not being in it. well... who cares... just listen to that kid play.
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Post by xtrizeme on Jul 3, 2005 7:11:00 GMT
Easy 15217, You know, I kind of rekindled my interest in the "Looking for a Thrill" DVD with my attempts to get this thread going, and I watched the DVD again and realized that I wasn't right on all my opionionated anecdotes. You're right, Yow doesn't seem drunk, and his piece is pretty cool. I was probably drunk when I saw it for the first time, and in combination with Ian's editing (which shows Yow with a beer bottle in a car with a bunch of frenetic/car sans Yow/frames) and the fact that every time I've seen David Yow, he's been drunk; I think I just kind of made an association. Indie Ian challenged me, and I didn't see deeper into the commentary...because I was drunk!. Yow's commentary is pretty right on, and he doesn't seem "very" drunk. I also have to give Nate Means an apology, as I really liked his commentary on totally skipping classic rock, with his confession of "Goo" by Sonic Youth, having a huge impact on his life. It might not be the coolest record to cite as a life-changing record, but as someone who was also turned onto music as art without ever having heard Cream(thank God), I related to the experience. Indie Ian is a fucking asshole and I despise him. I respect the fact that he is musically talented and have inquired into the Headrush pedal on previous postings because I have been amazed at a lot of his Don Cab output. I don't really mean for this thread to be about dogging on Indie Ian, it's just that I've never met an Indie-rock personality that was so easily despicable, and he makes for easy one-liners. I call him Indie Ian with ease because he is such a complete manifestation of the Indie-rock tendency towards separation for ego, as opposed to the alternative of art/exploration for communication/understanding. And not to seem like a hippy(I understand that the interesting part of art lies somewhere in between all this), but he's such a bone-headedly obnoxious proponent of his own bullshit(listen to the first Storm and Stress album, PLEASE!!) that he bypasses the interesting part of his own bullshit and becomes consumed (humorous) by it. And I don't feel bad for posting bad sentiments about the guy on a fan board. It's a fan board for Christ's sake! It's not Koran interpretation. If people weren't so passionate about their views of this band, this site would'nt exist. Don Caballero is not Rush. By the way, I think it's John Herndon(tortoise/poster children drummer)... he's got a pretty sweet "Looking for a Thrill" piece,also. I know I'm being a fairly obnoxious, semi-anonymous prick, with some of these observations, but hey, it's late, I'm reasonably drunk, there's nothin on TV, and it's a free fuckin' country.
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Post by easy15217 on Jul 8, 2005 0:19:01 GMT
i.r.a... what some call "indie rock attitude" is so over. who cares if these guys are snobs. it's only rock. have fun and listen. i was drunk and high when seeing this vid. it's o.k. to watch it drunk. if that's what u did. get high on real drugs, not organic. then it's ok. or not. that's a long paragraph. check out u.s. maple some kids say ian ripped them off when doing storm, some say it was better. rock is good... smoke it
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Post by easy15217 on Jul 8, 2005 0:22:32 GMT
you think ian and mcentire are snobs. then try argueing with evan dando after he personally kicks a brother out of a show. and recall damon audditioned for the lemonheads but was probably too good.
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Post by xtrizeme on Jul 8, 2005 5:06:39 GMT
U.S Maple rules. Most of their albums suck, though Talker is real good when high and the 7" they have with the "Hot for Teacher" B-side is godly. I saw them about 3 years ago in Atlanta along with 5 other people. I have this friend who spends all his time trying to be the strangest guy in Atlanta who went with me to the show. After seeing the band play a great(via alcohol interpretation) set, my friend greeted Al Johnson from U.S Maple and they engaged in the following conversation: Chris said, " I just wanted to thank you for showing me all the things in my life I need to accomplish and realize, and for giving me a blueprint I need to follow for being the person I need to be." With a bemused(yet slightly serious look) Al replied, " How exactly do you need to be?" WIthout missing a beat my friend replied intensely, " A lot more like you!" And then my friend did the little Van Hammersly ba-dop-bam hand gesture combo from the Bob and Dave show. Absolutely brilliant. Al Johnson was impressed. Um, comparing Storm and Stress to U.S Maple is not cool. Not only does one band have a sense of humor, one band isn't the worst band of all time. So they're fundamentally different, you know. Sorry about the long paragraphs, I get on here when I'm drunk and just kind of let it go...dude.
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Post by easy15217 on Jul 8, 2005 7:41:32 GMT
saw u.s. maple in pittsburgh (3times), dayton,chicago,cleveland and baltimore. their records are good. al in atlanta with marker on his face is like knowing your friend is a bore. can u suck me 2
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