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Post by Tetragrammatn on Jun 23, 2003 22:31:18 GMT
I don't know too much about Don Caballero, but I see that in the booklet for American Don that Ian Williams is listed as the only guitar player... but on songs like "Fire Back About Your New Baby's Sex" it sounds like there are two guitars, even three at points. Also on a live mp3 I have of that song it sounds the same way. Is it a technique he uses? Is it studio overdubbing? Did he have another guitar player on stage during the American Don tours?
Any information would be appreciated.
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Tetragrammatn
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Post by Tetragrammatn on Jun 23, 2003 22:56:43 GMT
Nevvvvver mind, I found the answer myself. From the Launch interview: "Following the departure of second guitarist Mike Banfield, Williams was left to construct intricate guitar tapestries on his own, and he did so with the help of a sampling pedal that allows him to layer several lines on top of one another. Also, whereas the previous album was recorded almost completely live, this one was put together piecemeal in the studio by producer Steve Albini; multi-segmented tracks like "The Peter Criss Jazz" and "A Lot Of People Tell Me I Have A Fake British Accent" are loaded with subtle tape edits. "
I'm guessing that's the same sampling pedal he uses in Battles.
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Post by XBangyrdead on Jun 23, 2003 23:35:31 GMT
yesh... he uses the AKAII headrush pedal. I ended up talking to one of the members of Battles online oneday and he told me Ian uses one in their band. I've heard he has been known to use 2 at times! Not too sure about that though. I've been tabbing out Don Cab stuff lately, and it's quite a pain in the ass dealing with all of Ian's little overdubs/layered guitar. It sounds so damn good though!
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Post by brikelly on Jun 24, 2003 14:36:36 GMT
Yep, Ian used two AKAI headrush pedals on the last Don Cab tour, and uses at least one in Battles.
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Post by lunchboxface on Jun 25, 2003 3:42:00 GMT
I will always be astounded by Ian Williams ability to have two PERFECTLY timed samples on separate pedals in a live situation, as immortalized on the numerous don cab bootlegs. Doing just one is hard enough, but having two going at once is astounding, and I'm not talking about overdubs or "stacking". This dude is really something else.
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Tetragrammatn
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Post by Tetragrammatn on Jun 25, 2003 7:30:53 GMT
I don't get it though, why would you need two? Usually these pedals are designed so you can have a few loops going at once.
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Post by brikelly on Jun 25, 2003 11:15:58 GMT
The second pedal was usually for recall or a previously looped pattern - check out "ones all over the place": the stacked loop that starts the song makes a second appearance towards the end.
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Post by drobot on Jun 25, 2003 18:33:28 GMT
I have one of the Akai pedals - in addition to recalling a loop, a second pedal would be necessary if you wanted a second sample longer than 11.5 seconds - the pedal allows you one sample of 23 seconds, and half that if you want to double up. Plus, I don't think you can subtract the second loop once you've recorded it.
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Post by Tetragrammatn on Jun 26, 2003 2:09:49 GMT
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Post by drobot on Jun 27, 2003 15:06:39 GMT
Yeah, not sure why he wouldn't use the Boss pedal - I think the Boss pedal is a fairly new, but other than that I would say that maybe for what Ian wanted to do the Akai pedals sufficed - they are super easy to use and it would be very intuitive to use two of them together. Don't have any experience w/ the Boss pedal. For me, the Akai was a lot cheaper and was fine for what I wanted out of it.
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Post by XBangyrdead on Jun 27, 2003 20:02:58 GMT
Yeah... I guess it all comes down to what is more handy in a live situation. User friendliness is half the battle w/ gear. I have never used either pedal. I would like to check em' out!
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Post by Tetragrammatn on Jun 28, 2003 5:58:06 GMT
Yeah, the Akai might have been cheaper, but he did buy TWO of them...
I have never used the Boss pedal but it might be a good investment. If anyone's used it it would be super if they could tell us if it's any good.
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Post by Don Caballero on Jun 28, 2003 14:08:40 GMT
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Post by M on Oct 15, 2003 15:55:39 GMT
Yeah... I guess it all comes down to what is more handy in a live situation. User friendliness is half the battle w/ gear. Bingo. I demoed both the Boss and the Line6 DL4 (the store didn't have the Headrush), and while the specs of the Boss were impressive, the damned thing was just impossible to figure out quickly. Little chiclet buttons that did different stuff, two big stomp switches that seemed to do the same thing...who needs that confusion? Theoretically the Boomerang might be best for live work, but I'm ok with the Line6 (although it'd be nice to have recallable sample banks).
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Post by Bangyouaredead on Oct 15, 2003 19:02:30 GMT
When I saw the Dirty Three, they used a boomerang pedal. There is some kind of an infinite delay or sample on that thing. Pretty impressive!
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