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Post by chad on Dec 9, 2003 23:58:04 GMT
well, one of my musical partners in crime just got back from a month in japan where he was modeling. he went to music stores, shows and even played shows. his verdict is that people are so aloof about ANY type of show that sometimes they dont even react or clap when a song is over. whatever you THINK about japan, is probably not true. they just work all the time and spend money like its nothing. to a certain extent it doesnt really matter what music you're playing, because they will buy it for the sake of buying shit.
well, in terms of music in europe, wow you've really got it made buddy. shit if i were you i would catch SINGLE UNIT from norway, or go try to visit or meet with brian eno. also the electronic, new instruments and "experimental" music scene over there is soooo much more supported than in the states. shit, in downtown LA when 5 kids show up to see the flying luttenbachers or upsilon acrux i really just laugh. thats why i need to write grants or get hooked up by a european label to go anywhere with my music.
and wow, you freak out over damon che? and don cab?
i consider these people my contemporaries and not idols or anything like that. i saw don cab twice, and twice was enough. i'd much rather see any of the artists i posted in the Other bands section (giving back). in fact the bassist of don cab, at the time that i saw them, was a friend of my roommate, so i really only went to my first don cab show because my roommate told me about them and let me listen to a few albums.
i mean, to meat COrnelius, or SIngle unit would be awsome. but the only people that i look forward to meeting or seeing play(?), hopefully before they die, are david byrne, brian eno and don van vliet.
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Post by troutbot on Dec 10, 2003 0:28:07 GMT
Maybe they are aloof, maybe they're not, maybe it's just a cultural difference, I mean I'm no expert. You're right about the electronic scene over here being more supportive which is great, and yes, it is a shame that some acts aren't better received when they are deserving of more attention. You mention Single Unit; got me thinking I would actually like to see Ulver play (well his newer stuff anyway, I'm not too keen on his more metal efforts). But heck I'd even like to see Autechre play, but they hardly do and they even hail from here. I too would like too see Ol' Captain Beefheart play but I don't know if that'd ever happen especially considering how some of the Magic Band reformed and are doing impersonations of him on stage Hope Battles come over here and hope you get to see the acts you want to see too, man
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Post by chad on Dec 10, 2003 1:25:10 GMT
true,true. i don't mean i want to see Beefheart the way it used to be, i'd just like to sit and have a cigar with him and talk. same with eno or byrne. i'm personnally not too into the whole show as spectacle kind of thing. i think the most obscure unexpected shows in unlikely places are what make me most inspired.
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Post by kife on Dec 10, 2003 16:01:13 GMT
I totally agree with you on the unexpected performances. One of the best things I've ever seen was this 16 yr old kid who'd set up his drum kit in front of a town library in a town in the NorthWest Territories in Canada. There was a box on which he'd written "Performance, 7:00 P.M." in front of his Drum kit, It was a beautiful sunset everything bathed in a golden glow. It wasn't just an endless drum solo either, he'd do things like slow down his drumming to the point where he was mimicking writing on his snare, just outright stop playing and staring at the few people who had assembled pretending to be playing without actually hitting his kit etc. very cool for such a young kid and especially considering that the town this was in is as isolated as you get in North America. For me, it was one of the best things I saw in the last year...
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Post by chad on Dec 10, 2003 18:28:37 GMT
thats sounds awesome. exactly what i mean...
lets get that kid a record contract stat ;D
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Post by Aria on Dec 10, 2003 19:55:49 GMT
Let's stop using the goofy icons, stat. ;D JK, dudes. That sounds like a pretty cool thing. Last time I was in Boston I passed by the guy who's always playing buckets near Tower Records (Or is Newbury Comics, whatever). Now, from what I've seen, he's never doing anything very special; he just has this gimmick and he hopes people will drop a buck in his hat for it. BUT, this last time he had let a young kid sit down and play and that was pretty cool. The only street musicians in my town tend to be along the line of folk artists. And there's an old guy that plays the accordian. And another old guy that plays the violin who, every time I walk toward him he starts in as if we are already in mid conversation and says. "How about a baseball song," and he starts bowing away at Take Me Out to the Ballgame. So yeah, there aren't any good street musicians around here.
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Post by chad on Dec 10, 2003 20:27:03 GMT
yup, i know the street drummer you're reffering to. there were a few regulars outside TOWER/Virgin(?) and on landsdowne after redsox games (i worked at the embassy/modern). in fact i never got around to it but i was going to record that guy from the other side of the street (newbury) and then remix it into an album. i talked to him about it and everything, i was going to give some of the cds to him (so he could sell them) in exchange for his permission. of course when ideas like that hit you all the time you can get sidetracked. so i never did it. boston is great for street and subway performers. not only music but performance art as well. sometimes you'll hate the musicians. or sometimes you'll come across a bow&saw player, or a someone playing some great handel pieces on recorder, and then there are some people who had built their own gear, and of course all of the berklee students who play publicly for performance experience. in LA all of this is completely illegal. even in the new subway stations whether they are outside or inside it is completely illegal and no permits are granted for this type of thing, in fact raising your voice to a shout is illegal, and so is having boombox. all at the penalty of a 250 dollar fine. what fun!
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Post by Aria on Dec 11, 2003 16:31:32 GMT
Chad: You lived in Boston... Did you actually know the lynx and pizza guys, too?
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Post by chad on Dec 12, 2003 8:25:55 GMT
no, but my friends girlfriend, whos out here now, knew the lynx ers from highschool in cape cod. no,i primarily played with homies from here even when i was in boston. those two bands played the type of music i had always been hearing in my head, but most of my friends dont nessasarily feel it like i do.
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Post by ShawnPhase on Dec 16, 2003 2:24:04 GMT
i bet battles would do pretty damn well in japan..
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Post by chad on Dec 16, 2003 8:29:24 GMT
"pretty well" in relation to what? making money?
making money as a criterion of success in the intent of creating "art" directly contradicts the original function of all music. making money, as a goal in the creation of any PRODUCT is CAPITALISM and COMSUMERISM and not "music". if you happen to make your own kind of (uncontrived or honest( music, that functions for you in whatever way, and no one "buys" it, then this does not mean that you are "unsuccessful". i would suggest the contrary. and most true musical innovators and geniuses hardly ever made enough money to live off of. would you like some suggestions to check out?
its good to know you're willing to give people money for music though. thanks, keep it up.
hey dude, did you hear that? somewhere in the world a tree just fell! can't you imagine the sound it made? wow.
i'm not angry man, i'm passionate and convicted. ;D
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Post by chad on Dec 16, 2003 8:34:16 GMT
and shawn, what the fuk do you know about japan, really? please indulge me.......i'm serious.
i've heard osaka is ok for j-rok and electronic anything. but tokyo is terrible for avante-anything.
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Post by Adam on Dec 16, 2003 23:31:54 GMT
Chad, you're to eager to spread your shit. What made you assume that Shawnphase was alluding to making money? I think he was just implying that Battles is venturing into an entirely different culture than that in which they are familiar performing for, and they will be received well because they are a really good band.
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Post by chad on Dec 17, 2003 8:06:32 GMT
well, what exactly would being "successful" in japan mean, to you?
and incase you didnt realize, the people who send you or book you on a "tour", especially half way around the world, are making an INVESTMENT with the intent of making a PROFIT. if thats not the case, then i'm not sure why these altruistic people wouldnt just give me or anyone else the money to go travel the world to perform in different cultures.
maybe the band members are doing it all themselves, but i havent met a musician yet that went to japan on their own investment.
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Post by brikelly on Dec 17, 2003 12:31:13 GMT
maybe the band members are doing it all themselves, but i havent met a musician yet that went to japan on their own investment. Shellac have done this, and more than once I believe. Brian
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