Listening Challenge

[ShawnPhase]

hospitalcomedian said:

mr. phase, i'm confused by you picking don cab the 2nd. i walked my dog listening to it the other day and i did the five and half miles faster than ever. good shout on autechre though. i don't know ep 7, but the split album they did with the hafler trio sounds like what i'd imagine electricity tastes like.

precisely my point...it's such a fucked up album that i think doing anything while listening to it would be worthwhile.

and i actually meant to say draft 7.30 instead of ep 7...i think it was actually lp 7 and ep 5 was the way it was, but draft is just superior in every way...when it leaked it was new years eve of i guess 2001? 2002? one of those years...i listened to it 8 times through all the way and then pitched it down about 30% and listened to it another 3 or 4 times in a row. clearly their most 'out there' record.

i also think 'harvey milk - my love is higher than your assessment of what my love could be' is a notable choice.

[hospitalcomedian]

I know what you're trying to say. But you're only repeating something we've already been through. These things aren't pre-disposed, they just occur because of the conditioning you experience by living in the world we do and perhaps evolution (debateable). For example strongly clashing colours aren't an everyday occurance in our society and there's even less in the natural world. Colours are only colours, you give them context. Just as two notes played one after another are just two notes right? Just as an object does not have limitations, you impose limitations upon it.

i hate to keep this going (we're unlikely to ever get a scientifically sound answer), but i don't really agree with this conditioning notion. perhaps it counts for some discomfort in sound/vision, and certainly more and more exposure does make these things easier to take, but i still think most of it is a natural dislike, more than a learned one. even putting one hand in hot water and the other in cold water at the same time (a little tenuous perhaps) confuses the brain. try it, then straight away put both hand in tepid water and you'll see what i mean.
stop me if i'm getting off the point.

[Don Caballero]

hospitalcomedian said:

I know what you're trying to say. But you're only repeating something we've already been through. These things aren't pre-disposed, they just occur because of the conditioning you experience by living in the world we do and perhaps evolution (debateable). For example strongly clashing colours aren't an everyday occurance in our society and there's even less in the natural world. Colours are only colours, you give them context. Just as two notes played one after another are just two notes right? Just as an object does not have limitations, you impose limitations upon it.

i hate to keep this going (we're unlikely to ever get a scientifically sound answer), but i don't really agree with this conditioning notion. perhaps it counts for some discomfort in sound/vision, and certainly more and more exposure does make these things easier to take, but i still think most of it is a natural dislike, more than a learned one. even putting one hand in hot water and the other in cold water at the same time (a little tenuous perhaps) confuses the brain. try it, then straight away put both hand in tepid water and you'll see what i mean.
stop me if i'm getting off the point.

I understand but not even sure a scientist could give the answer.

[cliff]

As human beings our view on music is definately affected by both:

A) Our environment, and how we have been conditioned to or react to sound.

and

B) Our natural tendencies towards sound... as in sound waves and how they interact with the ear and brain.

So I think we are really ALL correct in our assumptions.

It's funny because even though I felt inclined to post this, this post really doesn't contain anything that anyone didn't already know.

But I guess maybe sometimes it is nice to see something in actual writing or print to help REALIZE it.

[hospitalcomedian]

admin said:

hospitalcomedian said:

i hate to keep this going (we're unlikely to ever get a scientifically sound answer), but i don't really agree with this conditioning notion. perhaps it counts for some discomfort in sound/vision, and certainly more and more exposure does make these things easier to take, but i still think most of it is a natural dislike, more than a learned one. even putting one hand in hot water and the other in cold water at the same time (a little tenuous perhaps) confuses the brain. try it, then straight away put both hand in tepid water and you'll see what i mean.
stop me if i'm getting off the point.

I understand but not even sure a scientist could give the answer.

yip, i reckon we should lay this one to rest before it turns into a wanky nature/nurture debate.