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Post by so hot right now on Nov 27, 2003 2:15:19 GMT
fair, ill get "songs..." and see for myself. and yes i have the short version of get out alive, coincidentally, the new bass player for DC was working the merch booth at the ottobar show and suggested that the short version was better than the extended, wtf. anyways noudies you are a cunt. anyone who has any quantity of musical talent and sense can produce original music that is a fusion of many different influences..."everything has already been done on the guitar" thats just ignorance.
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Post by MrExtreme on Dec 7, 2003 17:30:12 GMT
I"m just chiming in to keep this thread going because the Don Caballero pizza thread has currently got more postings this one. That's fucking typical. A truly great record of quite a bit of originality is released, and the few people who are in a position to comment and build it up a little are talking about a band named after food, which is always, always, 100% proof positive that a band is completely retarded. Get Out Alive(the long version) is one billion times better than anything the Oxes, Pizza, Lynx, or whomever has ever done, and is a member of the rock albums that are absolutely mind-fucking-blowing club. Many people are very lame.
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Post by Not Mr Extreme on Dec 9, 2003 7:43:13 GMT
Can I at least get Susan to make some type of of incendiary remark about Damon to get this thread going? Damon's not really thin, what do yall think about that? Recent studies have shown that citing The Speaking Canaries is the coolest way to establish indie-credibility. Incidentally, I think it's pretty hilarious that Storm and Stress (officially the worst musical entity of all time...yes worse than Corey Hart)has a discussion board link while the greatest rock expression of all time is limited to a tangent next to "Technical Brilliance". Remember that the most important thing about music is incorporating your own hip-identity and tastes into an"indie" discussion(tip: it's cooler to cite someone who defines his musical being through indecipherable, sloppy, bullshit, than from someone whose life is music; involvement is a cliche). I'm going to watch "American Anthem" and wait for a discussion to develop...but I will not go away.
On the real tip,
Mr. Extrezeme
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Post by Tetragrammatn on Dec 10, 2003 2:25:35 GMT
Storm and Stress is not bad. They're very interesting to listen to. So what if they're not a "rock" band? I'm sure they realize that.
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Post by shawn phase on Dec 15, 2003 11:02:14 GMT
ok, everybody shut up.
thanks.
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Post by Tetragrammatn on Dec 16, 2003 20:51:46 GMT
You made the first post in this topic in a week, effectively reviving it. Good job, buddy.
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Post by Paul on Dec 16, 2003 23:58:08 GMT
I haven't gotten a chance to hear them, how is Che's guitar playing?
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Post by Pau on Dec 17, 2003 0:32:23 GMT
I just found some on epitonic, damn, I was surprised at how pretty the harmonies were, the notes evanescing into themselves, the Windows Media Player was doing this cobalt blue swirl thing that would crystallize and become stationary when they started chuggin' sitting there sparkling in little blue green transluscent blocks and then erupt back into itself as this maelstrom of arppegiation/hammerons swirled and bent around each other, he's a fucking razor sharp guitar player as well. I really like this stuff (total breath of fresh air)-I've never met Damon but it seems weird that someone who is supposedly such a dick would decide to create such a music as this.
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Post by Mr Extreme on Dec 17, 2003 4:40:24 GMT
The only thing I have to say is that if I ever make albums as amazing, timeless,and groundbreaking, as the stuff Damon has done with The(e) Speaking Canaries, and I can't get enough recognition to continue making records and/or touring, I'll be pretty pissed off too. Get Out Alive(long version) and Songs for the Terrestrially Challenged are the best rock albums I have ever heard. It's fucking wrong that they're not appreciated more.
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Post by ShawnPhase on Dec 18, 2003 3:36:35 GMT
i lsitened to 'the menopause diaries', and to me, it seems like things are less sure of themselves than thy were on 'terrestrially'..im not saying i wont get the album, i just feel that the verse/chorus/verse and accessibility of the music itself is something that wasnt there on the last album, and i feel like its a definate step backwards from the track damon did on the membranaphonics compilation. not that its bad at all, but it seems like he really is strivng for more accessibility, and i wish him all the best, i just wish there was a way for it to seem less forced to me..
sp
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Post by Mr Extreme on Dec 19, 2003 3:58:59 GMT
I like the less sure of itself observation you made about "Menopause Diaries" versus"Songs for the Terrestrially Challenged" but I think, as much as I hate response bullshit, that everything Damon has done since "Terrestrially Challenged" has been kind of prefaced by the fact that people didn't have the sense to appreciate what was going on with that album. MY 23 month old girl's favorite song in the world is "Menopause Diaries" and I think that says a lot about the universality of Damon's songwriting. You can criticize whatever's going on with the Canaries(I"m just happy that something is going on) or whatever, but I can assure you that Damon would like nothing more than to create Canaries music for the rest of his life.
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Post by ShawnPhase on Dec 19, 2003 11:02:13 GMT
believe me mr extreme, i enjoyed the track a lot...i think part of what felt so 'forced' to me was the emphasis in playing notes legato/bending..it's almost as if the years and years of hearing ian play guitar subconsciously forged its toll in his style, not that its a bad thing or a good thing. i just gfelt like the sheer ball-out progmetal stylings of terrestrially really fit the personality of the songwriter more, and it kind of seems like you know, damon really understands the way to craft a pop song now. i think thats all it boils down to. not that thats a bad thing or a good thing, i just feel like he was so good at making this bizarre music, that it kind of threw me for a loop =) ..thats awesome that your baby's got such good taste!
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Post by chad on Dec 19, 2003 11:12:02 GMT
maybe its silly to be posting this opinion on a "fan" site, but when i comes to the critique of an artist, particularly one that i like, i just let them be...... i mean, if they decide to do something i wasnt expecting (whether i like it or not) i kind of see that as a window into how that particular person really thinks about music. with eno for example, i like everything he has done, but when i listen to something from the early 90's for instance, i have to think about what new recording technologies or what was going on during that time may have translated into that difference in sound or intention.
don't know if thats relevant.
it just seems that it kinda gets a little freaky, in my opinion, when "fans" start feeling passionately about what they expect from an artist and questioning why they do something different or unexpected.....that makes me think of the whole new-coke protest hysteria in 85....
weird shit...
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Post by Mr Extreme on Dec 23, 2003 21:55:23 GMT
To Shawn Phase,
I agree with you whole-heartedly about Terrestrially Challenged being a seemingly perfect fit with Damon's rather intense/bizarre musical ambitions. It is still my favorite record of all time,and I particularly like the observation about confidence you had about confidence. I don't know how old Damon was when he wrote the songs for that record but I used to describe the records to friends as the most amazing 22 year old record of all time. Meaning it wasn't juvenile enough to be retarded/puerile, but had the combination of wisdom/hope that you might expect a phenomenally talented musician/songwriter to produce at 22. I don't know if anyone knows this but Songs for the Terrestrially Challenged got an absolutely gushing review in Rolling Stone when it was released(fucking-a deservedly so), and I think Damon probably expected a lot more appreciation for the record than it ever received. As a matter of fact, the liner notes on the first release post-Terrestrially Challenged say for what it's worth,"Man, it's a good thing we're never breaking up." And with Life-like Homes, the aesthetic of the songs is basically resilient but very, very, dark. And although there are some fucked up sounds/weird things going on in Life-like Homes it's not nearly as fucked up as the Roth-era Van Halen played by an alien rock-being shit that was on Terrestrially Challenged. My suspicion is that Damon is kind of treating his Speaking Canaries output as something that will always be there, but isn't his top priority( and in fact he has said about the same thing to me the couple of times I've asked him about this-I don't know him or anything, not trying to seem cool, though I am an official Chunklet contributor now...ahem). But what pisses me off is that I'm quite sure he would like the Canaries to be his number one thing and there are probably seriously no more than 1000 people in the world who realize how absolutely phenomenal a band they were in 1995-96. I have never seen anyone play a show in the same fucking universe, as the couple of times I saw the Canaries play. I'm very excited to see them tour again, I really hope it happens.
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Post by ShawnPhase on Dec 24, 2003 1:07:23 GMT
mr extreme, i totally agree...i remember the review in rolling stone, which completely threw me for a loop, and actually, thats what got me into them in the first place, i was completeyl awestruck to see that review there, in all places...i think the crux of the band (damon and noah) was jsut so spot-on with what they wanted to do then that they made the perfect record for the time..the van halen comparison to me was always so fitting but at the same time fell short, because i felt like this was the record that van halen would have put out, had roth stayed with the band for like the ermaining 20 years or so, and they would have just been putting it out around now...just goes to show you that good sincere musicians are far beyond their time, in all instances...hehe..
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