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Post by brikelly on May 10, 2004 14:58:28 GMT
I don't understand the fascination with Trans Am. I like the first album and the 3rd one but I don't care for their 80's sounding stuff. Don't all their albums sound like '80's stuff? :-)
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Post by ICEMAN on May 10, 2004 16:53:36 GMT
No, they don't. Just the 1st and 3rd. I have heard Liberation and it doesn't sound like 80's stuff but I didn't like it to much. Maybe I should check it out again.
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Post by easy15217 on Dec 29, 2004 3:29:58 GMT
if noahchicago is the PITTSBURGH native who played in northern bushmen, HURL, karl hendricks trio,speaking canaries and taking pics. u kids should do what is necessary to hear this drummer. i heard he is a drum tech for a huge band who i won't name. but why can't people try to build up pittsburgh. at a pittsburgh taking pictures show matt daly(member of hurl and tp) . did a bit of "rocktalk" between songs saying-"we are taking pictures from chicago". ?
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Post by ShawnPhase on Dec 29, 2004 8:57:44 GMT
transam are LEGENDARY...i have seen trans am more than any other band, equalling 20 times...at the last show during the double encore i jumped up on stage and started playing bass beacuse natron had to piss or something. it was surreal. they are the best live band i've seen, hands down. every time, so solid.
and amen about noah. i saw him play with hurl when i was in grandizer, i think ativin also played the show too? many many years ago sadly =(
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Post by markee2004 on May 10, 2005 23:35:38 GMT
living room music-by john cage i'm so pleased that its possible for there to be proffesional drum techs to solve the really important problems in the world. what would we do without them? you fucking tools. you should all try making your own drums, use your imagination. jeeezus. its like you fucking mordernized bastards have ignored 10s of thousands of years of musical history. you listen to some pretty esoteric, improvizational polyrythmic music, and you still end up thinking inside the box. you don't get music if you're still debating what gear to buy. not that i dont know about music equipment, but i'm saying that that dude playing a plastic bucket in the subway station would still kick all your asses...............fo real. Well duh! That's pretty obvious chad (if that is your real name). Everyone knows spending time playing, and developing your creativity is more important than what gear you use. But that doesn't mean equipment isn't a worthwile thing to think about sometimes too. you're never going to sound as good as you could without good equipment. Also having a good sound can inspire you to play better, I certainly feel quite uninspired by my shitty drums at the moment. Anyway currently I'm using a shitty session pro drum kit. But I just ordered a Tama starclassic performer kit (the birch one) in walnut type finish. It has to be custom made for the sizes I want, which are 22x18 kick, three fairly deep rock kind'a sized rack toms, and a 16x16 floor tom. At the same time I picked up an DW 9000 series double bass pedal, a pearl free floating lugged maple snare (which sounds bloody awesome), a DW 9000 series hi-hat stand, and paiste dark enery hi-hat cymbals. I went to the biggest drumstore in England tried out just about all there cymbals but still couldn't find a ride, and crash cymbal that I liked at all. This may be due to their shite sounding demo room. I just found it really hard to predict what they would sound like in my band. Also none of them sounded any good with the Paiste hi-hat cymbals I had already bought, and it looks like I'm lumbered with them now. Some advice here would be appreciated. Also when I get the dw pedals home i was pretty disapointed with them too, the action seems just to smooth, turns out i prefer something you have to push against abit. I can play faster even with my crappy cheap pearl bass pedal. I've tried experimenting with the settings but to no avail. Maybe if someone else has one and has found some settings on it that are good they could let me know. Another thing I've been wondering about is are there any sizes of drums that just sound bad. I custom ordered the toms in pretty strange sizes, and was just wondering about this because you usuall see toms in regular, even sizes like 8x10, and thought to my horror that maybe for example a 8x11 would just sound bad because of the mathematics or whatever.
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Post by FauxAssNonsense on May 11, 2005 0:02:58 GMT
i do not reccomend the use of double bass pedals.
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Post by bph on May 11, 2005 16:25:41 GMT
i'd steer away from double pedals. but i'd recomend sticking random things on the kit. at the moment i have a bell from a hotel fire alarm on my kit and i'm using it like a cowbel or something. it's way louder and has more variation depending on where you hit it. the top sound like a short dinging sound, but if you hit the side it has loads of sustain and it's way louder
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Post by frozin on May 14, 2005 1:03:08 GMT
markee, everytime i get a new pedal, i crank the spring tension as tight as it gets for a couple weeks, and play them like that. once i'm used to the feel of the pedal, i'll loosen the spring up until i feel like it's in a comfy setting, it takes some tinkering but you'll learn to love those dw's in due time. i have iron cobras now, which i used to hate so much... but i couldnt afford anything else and eventually got used to them.
i haven't played the dark energy cymbals yet, they don't seem to be too abundant in music stores around here... most shops stock 2002's and signatures, and a couple other random jibs here and there. one thing is for sure, cymbals will never sound the same in a music store as they do at home!
shorter drums sound tight, longer drums are boomy, picking the right head combination will be key in making your new drums sound great. just be patient and swap out heads one drum at a time until you find the heads that work the best with the kit.
fire alarm bells are superb, i stole one from middle school ages ago and still have it somewhere- definitely need to use that thing again, so loud and sustains for a good while!
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Post by markee2004 on May 16, 2005 23:04:56 GMT
Thanks for the advice Frozin, all very useful stuff. I was wondering more specifically about cymbal reccomendations though. I'm looking for something smooth and highish pitched from the crash and ride. I want them to sound like a laser beam cutting through the rest of the band, if that makes any sense. The closest I found to this sound in the drum store was the Sonor AA, and AAX range. Bassically I am looking for 1 ride and 1 crash. I was thinking maybe something like a crash/ride for the ride, as I like to really smash the ride sometimes whilst jamming. My main problem is matching all the cymbals (including the paiste hi-hat I have) together in terms of pitch. I bassically need some help narrowing down the options.
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Post by markee2004 on May 19, 2005 0:21:06 GMT
i do not reccomend the use of double bass pedals. Why's that then?
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Post by FauxAssNonsense on May 19, 2005 2:42:31 GMT
i think they're pretty useless. i think with enough work, one can get along just as well without them. also, a lot of people just use them to mask their non-skill.
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Post by ShawnPhase on May 21, 2005 4:58:38 GMT
just look at zach from hella.
and ACTUALLY LOOK at him when he plays. i suggest this highly.
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Post by markee2004 on May 22, 2005 19:25:32 GMT
God!!! That guy's either a giant, or he's using a miniature drum kit. Bloody impressive though either way. He just has pretty amazing finger speed and co-ordination. Musically though I don't rate hella that much, they seem to just crow-bar all the technique they can into each song, the guitarist too.
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Post by ShawnPhase on Jun 9, 2005 5:30:06 GMT
actually, the drums he uses are quite large. ive never seen triceps quite as ridiculous as his.
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Post by xtrizeme on Jun 11, 2005 6:38:26 GMT
I'm having a pretty specific/basic problem. I've played for years without a resonant head on my bass drum( like Tim Soete of The Fucking Champs) and have gotten a great, defined, sound out of my bass drum, one that complemented my snare sound for years. I decided I wanted a boomier sound out of my bass drum so I went and got a pretty nice resonant head, put the little small hole at 5o'clock( like all my favorite drummers)and I'm finding that I can't get my bass drum to sound anything like what it sounds like behind the kit(which predicates how I play) compared to what it sounds like to my bandmates(which predicates how they play). And while perplexing myself with this dilemma, I discovered something even worse. My snare (which sounds like warm heaven to me) sounds like shrill shit in front of me( which is what my bandmates hear). There's nothing more I hate in the fucking universe than a shrill snare. I saw a local Atlanta band(the Blame Game) open for the Fucking Champs a few weeks ago, and the only thing I could think of was how we were so much better than this band plus we didn't have a snare tuned so high it would make Gandhi jack off his brother to make it stop. My snare sounded about 1/2 as bad as that, which is still fucking terrible. I'm going to be in tuning hell for at least the next two weeks, but I wanted to at least get my predicament out there. And if anyone thinks my predicament is pathetic, just know that I've never recorded in my life. Not because I couldn't record, but because I knew I didn't have anything worth recording. And that I think, deserves respect. BUT to the problem at hand...
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