chud
First Hits
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Post by chud on Jun 13, 2007 20:54:52 GMT
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Post by ShawnPhase on Jun 21, 2007 9:53:11 GMT
i traded a friend a 20" ride for it. it's a little bit easier to push around...it's actually a 24" which is pretty cool. i'd like to get a thin 30" and 24" and use my 19" sabian flat chinese and just do away with all the bullshit.
i got some new drums, i'll put some shots up of them pretty soon here.
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Post by hospitalcomedian on Jun 25, 2007 16:21:19 GMT
i just got a price for a meinl 22" mb20 heavy bell ride. it sounds absolutely lovely to my admittedly duff ears. 495 euros (ouch). there was a sabian pragon one for about 350, which is closer to my budget, but i think if i got that, i'd regret not getting the meinl within a few weeks. what would you do?
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Post by fvgazi on Jun 25, 2007 16:59:44 GMT
those mb20s are GREAT for rock, man. if i didn't have an obsession with thin, dark, heavily hammered cymbals i'd go for something from that line. there is nothing that compares to the mb20s. listen to this. that is such an amazing sound for such a HUGE, heavy cymbal.
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Post by dalyzach on Dec 1, 2007 21:05:04 GMT
check out saluda cymbals and dream cymbals. same quality cymbals as the big three for much less. Partly to prepare me for this semi-acoustic band that I might have joined but mostly just because I had a shitty morning, today I bought a 22" Dream Bliss Crash/Ride at Maxwell Percussion. I played about six different 22s and picked out one with an uncharacteristically bright stick attack and bell sound, but still with the dark, trashy wash underneath. They had a few 24s as well but they were all quite flat with tiny unplayable bells and therefore were of little use to me. This was actually the first time I'd ever gone into a drum shop and A/B'd a bunch of cymbals (in the past I've always gone in knowing exactly what I wanted or, more often, just bought the cymbal on eBay, sound unheard) and it was a lot of fun! I'm very pleased with my choice, and it only cost $160!!! Also, a few months ago I finally got to try the 30" Stagg at Andy's Music. It's huge, it's loud, it's clangy, but it's also surprisingly playable. My favorite thing to do with it was pound it with the bottom of my fist for a great gong sound.
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Post by nokiltersam on Dec 2, 2007 16:01:42 GMT
Hi, this is my first time visiting this site and I have to say It's quite interesting! Yes, I am a drummer myself and yes I am a Don Cab fan too. My band had the delight of supporting them on the World Class Listening Problem tour in Glasgow Scotland and it was amazing to say the least! If you're interested in my band heres our myspace: www.myspace.com/nokiltermusic we are called No Kilter. Anywho, on the topic of drums..... I've been playing drums for nearly a decade now and am currently writing my dissertation on Identity Work and the Self-Perception of the Drummer and doing a creative research project based on the Emotional Response Through Drumming Performance. The kit I play at the moment is a lovely Premier Rock Legend with 26" kick, 14, 16 & 18" toms, 14" deep Premier brass snare, 13.5" pearl piccolo, 18" Z Custom Rock Crash, 14" Quick Beat Hats, 21" Sweet Ride (cymbals all Zildjian), a rack of 6,8 & 10" roto-toms and last but not least a Limited Edition Titanium coated Tama Iron Cobra double kick pedal. My kit has hude dimensions and I know it may look ridiculous, but it sounds great (live and in the studio). The 26" kick may seem daunting at first, and although it takes some tweaking tuning wise, once you have it it sounds amazing! Same goes for the toms. Originally I had a Pearl Chad Smith Signature Snare and wasn't interested in the brass snare that came with the kit, but the more I tried it out the more I liked it and (tuned high on the batter head, not so tight on the bottom, and with the snares quite loose) it gives that Che-like "konggg" sound! The cymbals are brilliant, I love Zildjian. They had to be big and heavy because I play very heavy-handed and they also needed to cut through the kit as well... and they do. The roto-toms I have to admit were an addition to my kit after playing with The Don. Originally I intended getting a set of 4 octobans for my kit (I wanted something retro and almost Latin) but after WCLP came out I decided roto-toms were the way to go, and I was not wrong. Since adding them to my kit, they have become an integral part of the sound of my playing and my band, however I have yet to use them in the studio. Apart from them being an extra thing to worry about taking to gigs and touring, there is the obvious problem of mic-ing them up live (as I don't own any mics myself). But if there is a spare mic handy then mic-ing them with only 1 mic seems to do the trick as they are so high end compared to the rest of my kit they cut through well live. Alternatively, try mic-ing the roto-toms using the hi-hat mic (mic-ing your hats from underneath). My piccolo is something I've had for a while but is something I'm currently getting used to so I'll keep you up to date with how that one goes. However, I use a Remo Ebony Ambassador Haed on it and it has a lovely bright "Crrrack" to it! Finally, my double kick pedal. This was something I used to toy around with when I was younger (trying to play metal tunes) and I had a shit pedal to be honest and gave up for a few years. Then I just decided to give it another go and went for the Iron Cobra. I have to add at this point that I didn't just get the Limited Edition pedal to be flash; when I bought it it was on special offer and was only £25 more than the original Iron Cobra, so I thought why not?! Anywho, It's amazing! Really durable, easily adjustable, responsive and it looks good too! Being a bit out of practice, I'm still managing to cope and utilize it within my band's new material, but I'm currenly learning the Heel Toe method to quicken my skills. On tuning and heads: I use Remo heads, I don't really think head brand makes a difference (as long as they are leading brands) but you have to choose heads that compliment your playing and your kit. I play very hard and very fast and therefore need either double coated, coated, pinstripe or batter heads. I use Remo Weatherking coated heads on my snare and my toms and pinstripe for the kick. I've stuck with the heads that came with the roto-toms however they are rubbish and will be purchasing Remo pinstripe heads for these. The only reason I use Remo is because that was the first brand I ever used - it's really a matter of preference I find, Evans are nice too. Tuning: I like to believe there are no set rules for how to tune your kit, just how to tune it so it sounds good live and in the studio and also again compliments your kit. Because of my kits dimensions, I tend to tune them medium-low. Thats about it from me. Hope this helps, I know drum-kits are fiddely and annoying at times but I find if you are just patient and try out everything your kit and limbs have to offer you will find the right sound and playing technique. I believe this is true of Che too. Sam.
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Post by ShawnPhase on Dec 3, 2007 11:59:43 GMT
tomorrow im getting the sabian paragon ride for the right side. i might swap the hex z out in the same position as the 24" is on the left and use the paragon for the main ride.
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Post by hospitalcomedian on Dec 3, 2007 17:53:45 GMT
i just added a 4.5 by 18 inch core drill bit to my set-up and i cut the bell off an old paiste 302 ride and i have it on top of my regular ride.
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Post by fvgazi on Dec 3, 2007 20:10:35 GMT
Yes, I am a drummer myself and yes I am a Don Cab fan too. My band had the delight of supporting them on the World Class Listening Problem tour in Glasgow Scotland and it was amazing to say the least! If you're interested in my band heres our myspace: www.myspace.com/nokiltermusic we are called No Kilter. this is some great music. welcome to the boards and congrats on touring with don cab!
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mada
Faux-Ass Nonsense
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Post by mada on Dec 3, 2007 21:48:51 GMT
i wish i could have drums, but i live in an apartment. my neighbors would deficate all over me.
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Post by hospitalcomedian on Dec 4, 2007 1:31:28 GMT
i wish i could have drums, but i live in an apartment. my neighbors would deficate all over me. i had a similar problem for a while, but the doctor gave me a butt-plug. i mean i got an electronic kit. piece of crap, i probably didn't play it for more than ten minutes and sold it within a week of getting it.
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Post by ShawnPhase on Dec 4, 2007 3:59:17 GMT
so i got the paragon. sht is ICY. very similar in tone to the hex z. i would weigure saying a zildjian hex z is a poor mans paragon, slightly lower, but thats understandable with a 23". i've moved the hex z to the stand that 24" was on, and im going to put the 24" on the right side so i can lay into the motherfucker like dave from rye coalition. i dont think those 24" thin rides are all that easy to crack, plus i use alex acuna timbale sticks and vater fusions, i donno if it would happen. i replaced the pinstripe on my floor tom and got a batter emperor for my snare. set sounds great. also, i found this on the internet and i figured i should post it in this thread, its the drum tuning bible. some stuff here is pretty useful. home.earthlink.net/%7Eprof.sound/index.html
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Post by MotorMax on Feb 23, 2008 0:39:26 GMT
i have a ludwig,well parts of lot of ludwigs,because i checked all the serial numbers on the internet,and i found out that i have parts of drums from 1964 to 1967,the thing is that they got all repainted in green/aqua before i brought them,so i guess its less valuable because of that but it still sounds really great.anywaythe set up is: a 24`` x12`` bassdrum one 9``tom one15``tom one 18``floor tom
i dont have the snare that goes with it,i wish i could. but when i found it the dude at the music/antiques store only had these parts plus an extra 12 ``tom that was a bit srcatched,but he was selling the whole thing for 500$ bucks.i was totaly blown away by the sound of the bass drum and bought it right on the spot.plus it came with sabians b8 ,one crach,one ride and a set of hi hats,great fucking deal!!!!!
since then i tore off those poor b8 and got my self sabians aa and aax.one 14``studio crash aax,one 21 ``aa rock ride,one 18``dark crash aax,and i still use the b8 13``hi hat that sound kind of cool and trash at the same time.
i have a pearl bass drum pedal,and i also have an old pearl pedal that camed with the kit that have a leather strap instead of a chainethat hold the foot board and the beater. i use pro mark liberty devito sticks cuz they are the one that last me the longuest, and i have less blister with those sticks. i have a premier 14x5 snare drum that i use from time to time but mostly i use a dixon 13x3 snare on recordings and live cuz it cut trough better. thats it.i dont have the speed king pedal,that would be realy great.
i still laugh wen i tink of this guy selling the drum at the antique store telling me`` i have a drum back in the warehouse,its old and a bit crappy,nobody is interested in it.``i was like,``well let me see that!!!!!!
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Post by hospitalcomedian on Mar 25, 2008 0:07:55 GMT
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Post by hospitalcomedian on Jul 22, 2008 14:58:59 GMT
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